Do you see what is unfolding around the world. Wars, rumors of wars, kaoz, love waxing cold, famines, weather patterns, financial woes, droughts, and the list is endless. I'm not going to go scriptural here because you either know what the scriptures state or you don't. However for those of us that do, and that have followed the prophecies of the scriptures. We see what is unfolding. Watch as it continues to unfold and heavens time clock comes to earth.
There are numerous end time ministries within the body of Christ. Some that are biblical, some that are semi biblical and some that are just after your money. Find one that is biblical and read the teachings around the scriptures. Prepare yourself for the things to come, the seasons, the tribulations.
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Read Matthew Chapter 24
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Read Matthew Chapter 24
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In His Glorious Name ministries, greetings. I'm curious as to why you think that Matt 24 applies too us today? Read it again like if you are reading it for the first time. Then ask yourself, "Who was Jesus Speaking to?" Who was His audience? Also, does the scripture in Matt 24 say "This" or "That" generation.
If He said "This" then how can that apply to "US" Christians today?
Just challenging your interpretation on this end times theology. IT's good for the Kingdom. Be a Berrean.
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The Great Tribulation already happened. Don't you think that crucifiying our Lord Jesus Christ was the greatest crime in the history of the world? Do yo agree that the apostles, all but John, died horrendous deaths? ...all for their faith? Don't you believe that the early church was under very hostile and under immense persecution? Nero used to burn Christians as light candles for his perverted and debauchary laden parties. That my friend is a great tribulation that has not been repeated in the past 1800 years. Matthew 24, Jesus is speaking to HIS disciples. Notice how many times He said, "YOU" or ""They shall deliver YOU..." and "I say unto YOU".
Then He said, "THIS generation" not a generation to come.
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Note that a question was placed before Jesus asking THREE questions.
Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, 1) when shall these things be? 2)and what shall be the sign of thy coming, 3) and of the end of the world?
The sign of thy coming AND the end of the world.
Note Jesus's answers:
Jesus spoke of wars, rumors of wars, nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places, saying all these are the beginning of sorrows. BEGINNING OF SORROWS.
Then Jesus said but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
ARE MANY ENDURING TILL EVEN THIS TIME, ARE MANY BEING SAVED?
Are you exempt from the very commandments of the scriptures even today? NO!
WE ARE ALL STILL ENDURING.
Then Jesus said and this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
ALL THE WORLD, THE WORLD IS ROUND NOT FLAT. UNTO ALL NATIONS AND ALL PEOPLES, AND THEN THE END SHALL COME.
THE GOSPEL IS STILL BEING PREACHED TILL THIS DAY.
Jesus answered the second question placed before Him by the disciples.
Then Jesus addressed the 1st question and then said something very profound.
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
NOR EVER SHALL BE. NEVER, EVER AGAIN.
I can assure you that there was greater tribulation in the world when Nazi Germany started killing Jews and people. That war alone by far exceeded the days, lives and times of the disciples. 100 FOLD.
THEREFORE, ARE WE TO THINK THAT JESUS WAS LYING? NO, OR GOT IT WRONG?
Yet Jesus said "NOR SHALL EVER BE".
Then Jesus said something else being.
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
THE SUN IS NOT DARKENED, THE MOON STILL GIVES HER LIGHT.
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
ALL THE TRIBES OF THE EARTH. ALL TRIBES OF THE EARTH WERE NOT EVEN ON THE EARTH IN THAT DAY. ALL!!!
Then Jesus said;
Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
THIS GENERATION. JESUS WAS A PROPHET, AND WAS SPEAKING PROPHECY.
JESUS WAS SPEAKING NOT OF THIER GENERATION, BUT THE GENERATION THAT CHRIST WAS REFERING TO.
THERE WERE ALSO CHILDREN PRESENT. THERE WERE MEN AND WOMEN OF OLD AGE, 1 YEAR OLDS, 2 YEAR OLDS, AND EVEN CHILDREN IN THE WOMB.
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
HEAVEN AND EARTH HAVE NOT PASSED AWAY, AND HIS (JESUS'S WORDS REMAIN. THE GOSPEL IS STILL BEING PREACHED TO THIS DAY. I DIDN'T HEAR IT TILL 1985.
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
NO MAN, NOT EVEN THE PRETERISTS.
But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
LIKE AS THE DAYS OF NOAH.
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark.
PEOPLE ARE STILL EATING, DRINKING, MARRYING, AND GIVING IN MARRAIGE TO THIS DAY.
THERE ARE MORE SINS BEING COMMITTED TO THIS DAY UNDER THE SUN, THAN EVEN IN NOE'S DAY.
GOD SENT HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON INTO THE WORLD THAT ALL MIGHT BE SAVED, INCLUDING YOU, ME AND EVERY PERSON BORN YESTERDAY. IT IS NOT THE WILL OF THE FATHER THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH AND GOD IS NO RESPECTOR OF PERSONS.
Preterism is the eschatalogical teaching that all Bible prophecy is history. Most of it took place in 70 AD with the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans. The Tribulation was the persecution of the saints and Nero was the antichrist. At the heart of the doctrine is that prophecy was declared and destined to be fulfilled within the generation of Christ's earthly ministry. All references in the Bible to the "last days" refer to the "last days" of Israel, which means that today she has no more relevance than the Canary Islands. The "New Jerusalem" is the Church now and forever. It will "Christianize" the world.
There are "Full Preterists" and "Partial Preterists." Partial Preterists actually consider much of what Full Preterists teach to be heretical. A Full Preterist says that Jesus returned "in spirit" in 70 AD and NOTHING is future. Good-bye "blessed Hope." We're in "the New Heavens and New Earth" right now and Satan is bound. But to Full and Partial Preterists, hardly anything is taken literally--most all is allegorical or symbolic, particularly the entire book of Revelation. To all Preterists, the Olivet Discourse is not about the coming of our Lord but about the destruction of Jerusalem. Revelation was not written in 95 AD but much earlier according to Full and Partial Preterists.
Partial Preterists do believe in a Second Coming, resurrection of believers (but not in the Rapture), and Judgment Seat of Christ. They do not believe in a literal Millennium, Battle of Armageddon, literal antichrist, or a role for national Israel.
Recent theology
This theology wasn't taken seriously until the 17th Century, though they will argue that. They will tell you that Dispensationalism wasn't taken seriously until 1817 which is totally false and is another message. Preterism became prominent thanks to a Jesuit priest, Luis de Alcazar, who sought to defend the Catholic Church against attacks of the Reformers. He sought to defend the Roman Church from some claims they were making about Catholic apostasy. The Preterism taught today, however, only became popular in the late 20th Century.
So here are some bullet points to consider:
· Nero was the antichrist. The term in the Bible they say is not some "future Fuhrer" but was a symbol of Nero and the Roman Empire. The False Prophet was the leadership of apostate Israel who rejected Christ and worshipped instead the Roman Empire (who tormented them then slaughtered them). Nero's persecutions were limited to Rome, not the whole world.
· Matthew 24 and the book of Revelation are all fulfilled. The destruction of Jerusalem was the Great Tribulation along with the persecution of believers. So how do they justify Matthew 24:21 where it states that the Tribulation will be the worst time in all of history? Many scenarios since 70 AD have been far worse than the destruction of 70 AD including World War II. And ALL NATIONS of the world did not come against Jerusalem in 70 AD...only Rome. All nations coming against her are to be destroyed. It didn't happen.
· Everything is taken symbolically including the Millennium. Actually, there is no Millennium as Dispensationalists know it. We are now in the "Kingdom of Christ" and have been since the days of the early church. Satan is bound, even though the earth is reeling with sorrow, pain, disasters, and godless governments under Communism and radical Islam. More than 50 million believers have died since 70 AD and there have been 15,000 wars. Some "Kingdom"! Our Lord must be weeping.
· Jesus isn't coming back so what do they do with such obvious scriptures as Acts 1:11, "This same Jesus which is taken up from you into Heaven shall so come in like manner as you have seen Him go"? This should be a challenge to the Full Preterists who believe He came back "in spirit" in 70 AD and that's it for His return!
· The Jews as a nation did not turn to Messiah in 70 AD as prophesied in Zechariah 12:10.
· If all these events took place in 70 AD, when were the nations judged as described in Matthew 25:31-46. They weren't back then because this is FUTURE.
· As for Nero--he wasn't the antichrist! He died in 68 AD before the destruction of Jerusalem. He was a whimpy emperor though evil, indeed. But he doesn't come close to being the "King of fierce countenance" of Daniel 8:23 and he made no covenant with Israel, Daniel 9:26, 27. Dispensationalists believe he will be destroyed by the King of kings, but Nero committed suicide. Before that, he issued no "mark" and people could buy and sell. He sat in no Temple declaring himself God, demanding he be worshipped (II Thess. 2:4). All Preterists deny there will be future Temples such as the Tribulation Temple and Millennial Temple.
· The vials, bowls, seals, and trumpet judgments of Revelation are all symbolic to all Preterists. Thus the carnage (and victory) of Revelation is overlooked and written off.
· Why can people with this theology accept that all of the prophecies of Jesus' first coming were fulfilled literally but Second Coming verses must be symbolic? Are we permitted to pick and choose like this and remain with any hermeneutical credibility and accuracy? This is biblically and intellectually disingenuous.
Preterism is full of doctrinal error
CONCLUSION: Revelation was written in about 95 AD and not before 70 AD. Preterism is just another teaching that is filled with doctrinal error and should not be taken seriously. It takes our eyes off of our "blessed hope"--the glorious return of our Lord to take us out of our world of pain and sorrow. The wonderful time of the lion and lamb side by side will be a glorious time. Satan is hardly bound, but he will be thrown into the pit forever.
The King of kings will inaugurate the greatest kingdom the world has even known! What a glorious day awaits us as believers.
I'm a partial preterist. Good job at all the posts. However, not all the facts about Preterism are correct. You forgot to mention hyper-preterism which is mainly from what you posted.
Now back to the biblical text. If you read carefully and slowly, Matthew 23 & 24 are linked together. WHO was Jesus speaking to? Notice how many times the word "YOU" is used in just Chptr 24. It's obvious to any reader, Christian or not, that Jesus was speaking to His disciples!
But let me ask you this. ALL Christians believe that Christ is coming for His church. And that No man knows the hour of His return. Now is this the Rapture or the 2nd Coming or are they the same thing?
And, hypothetically, let's say that Christ comes on Thurs, May 1, 2008. So when does the 7-year trib clock start ticking? If it starts on May 2, 2008 (hypothetically now) then 7 years later is May 2, 2015. No matter when the Rapture happens, tomorrow, 20, 30 or 100 years from now, it WILL happen on a certain day, month and year.
One must logically deduce that you can start ticking down the "prophetic clock" as to His 2nd coming.
End timers are at a dillema with this.
By the way. I'm not arguing. This is a rational discussion we are having on an in-house debate within believers of Christ. Study to show thyself approved.
God Bless You
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